tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post2173250348972262749..comments2024-03-26T23:35:38.726+01:00Comments on the Brontë Sisters: Biographers from 1900 Part II ( Under construction)Geri Meftah Arthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00596915249757782612noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post-4065414419687852202013-07-28T03:58:44.064+02:002013-07-28T03:58:44.064+02:00John Maynard's " Charlotte Bronte and sex...John Maynard's " Charlotte Bronte and sexuality" <br /><br />Update: This book continues to impress..I feel I know CB better after reading Prof. Maynard's book<br /><br /> and '<br /><br /> Elizabeth Imay's " Charlotte Bronte and the Mysteries of Love: Myth and Allegory in "Jane Eyre"<br /><br />Both of them see CB as a fully conscious artist/ author , makes her choices in a fully conscious way ....not swept up unknowingly .<br /><br />She had severed too long an apprenticeship for that . <br /><br />Charlotte Bronte : Master Craftswoman Writer .<br /><br /> She herself contains the true Master within Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post-341459033043499002013-06-08T21:47:11.672+02:002013-06-08T21:47:11.672+02:00I have started John Maynard's " Charlot... <br /> I have started John Maynard's " Charlotte Bronte and sexuality" <br />and I'm very impressed. <br /><br />Maynard sees Charlotte as a conscious, serious artist<br />" the first author in English to deal with this topic before Hardy " ....<br /><br />So already I like it <br /><br />But then he takes on the physiologically (mis)treatment CB had been subjected to <br />and says much what I said earlier in the comments , only vastly better<br /><br />I 'm so impressed, I have utilized my lone typing finger to tap out some choice quotes <br /><br /><br /><i> Psychological studies of Bronte have tended , however, to attempt more than some further insights into the life behind the work; they have offered themselves as a central mode of interpreting her work .<br /><br /> As such , they have regularly encouraged readers of Bronte to interpret her sexual and psychological insights not as a major aspect of her art but as the uncontrolled drama of her own inner life spilling over into her writing </i><br /><br />Indeed! <br /><br /><i> " The very ways of looking at experience that lead to Bronte anticipate broadly the assumptions of Freudian psychology , the massive symbolic and psychological content of her fiction , attract the psychological biographers and critics as a well designed playground attracts children </i><br /><br /> LOL how true<br /><br /><i>The psychological studies of Bronte show in aggravated form many of the problems with psychopathology as a whole . The practicing analyst asks questions that bring his living patients to knowledge that they may try out in their on going lives ; the biographical shrink on the contrary arbitrarily imposes psychological interpretations on the dead without any possible test of their validity </i><br /><br />alot of wisdom there <br /><br /> <i>Anyone who takes the trouble to read over the psychological studies of Bronte will not find it difficult to maintain comic perspective on the issues raised so gravely , unless indeed he has his own ax to grind </i><br /><br />Lord yes<br /><br /> I have to thank you Geri. I didn't know of this book before reading about it here! Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post-72302509367602494772013-06-05T09:05:39.276+02:002013-06-05T09:05:39.276+02:00You are welcome. I was looking at his photo for da...You are welcome. I was looking at his photo for days thinking" I didn't know John Maynard Keynes wrote a book about Charlotte's sexuality? ... he <i>was</i> part of the Bloomsbury group so I thought well maybe lol Then I read the name more carfully <br /><br />I do like reading everything and deciding for myself and how great we have so many years of Bronte books<br />to choose from ? <br /> <br /><i>And Louis Parensell is from Virginia Moore. i changed this as well</i><br /><br />Well whoever wrote it, it shows it does not take much to create an Emily myth as one wishes lol <br /><br />Another interesting aspect to study is how each Bronte faced having to leave and go into the world beyond the Parsonage once they grew up ...some did better than others. But it was a crisis for each ...which Anne seemed to master more than the others. Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post-2082364116503784002013-06-02T21:26:22.919+02:002013-06-02T21:26:22.919+02:00Hi Anne,
O dear, o, dear, I toke away John Maynar...Hi Anne,<br /><br />O dear, o, dear, I toke away John Maynard Keynes........ Thank you for mentioning it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <br /><br /><br />And Louis Parensell is from Virginia Moore. i changed this as well.<br /><br />It was fun collecting all these biographers with their different ideas. <br /><br />Thank you for your comment.Geri Meftah Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00596915249757782612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post-34563671238040501352013-06-02T19:49:19.464+02:002013-06-02T19:49:19.464+02:001928 Romer Wilson The Life and Private history of...<i>1928 Romer Wilson The Life and Private history of Emily Jane Bronte.<br /><br />She had difficulty reading old handwriting. She misread the title of a poem "Love 's Farewell" as " Louis Parensell" and went on to invent a lover ( for Emily Bronte) of that name.</i><br /><br />That is hilarious... ouch<br />Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post-43756493226784900052013-06-02T19:42:00.029+02:002013-06-02T19:42:00.029+02:00Hey Geri, It took me some days to realize it , b...Hey Geri, It took me some days to realize it , but the photo you have for John Maynard is<br />actually of John Maynard<i> Keynes </i> (1883-1946) British economist.<br /><br />I think a book about Charlotte's sexuality by John Maynard Keynes however would have been interesting lol<br /><br />I'm awaiting my copy of John Maynard's book from inter library loan <br />Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post-84529882921394111682013-05-28T04:41:56.756+02:002013-05-28T04:41:56.756+02:00Thanks for updating this post!
I think Winifred...Thanks for updating this post!<br /><br />I think Winifred Gerin is a must read for the Bronte fan for as you say she <br /><br /><i> Combined passion and erudition in her books</i><br /><br />making her rare then and now imo... Her work has an amazing balance <br />that makes it a standout<br /><br />Being human and a genius, CB is vastly more multifaceted than many treat her.<br /><br />Was Charlotte was doomed because, as a woman, she could not be Zamorna.? Well perhaps...but<br />that over looks the fact she still was Zamorna within ...plus that is but a small part of this woman...people tend to have pet theories and make too much of them when an allusion to the idea would provide insight .<br /><br />They often tend to see things as wholly negative...I believe CB liked being lorded over because she liked being a rebel..One can hardly do so when in charge, as increasingly she was as Papa's health was declining ...<br /><br />Charlotte writes" Arthur says this and Arthur says that" just as all her life before she wrote " Papa says this or that" but for the most part, and certainly since her success, she hid behind them as she did exactly what she wanted . They are a marvelous convenience when you don't want to do something...like getting the vapors . <br /><br />A good part of Ellen's fury over the letters is towards Charlotte. Because CBN did not dream of fighting Arthur over the issue ...but simply laughed at him , "obeyed" and moved on ...she picked her fights and did not waste powder on those she deemed not worthy.<br /><br />I believe Charlotte regularly burned other's letters and this "order" did not register as an overbearing one. Charlotte's main response seems to have been "Whatever". <br /><br />Of course Ellen transferred her anger about it to Arthur solely.... Charlotte was a wretched and helpless victim. That view does not flatter Charlotte or her judgment to marry Arthur.... and it rather makes him more powerful than he was.<br /><br />One can call Charlotte alot of things , but by that time in her life "helpless" would not be one of them imo. However by making Charlotte a total victim, Ellen does not have to face the fact Charlotte indeed chose Arthur over herself...in this incident and other wise <br /><br /> It's marvelous to have so many books about the Brontes... and from so many eras . Reading them, old and new, and rereading them over time is very enjoyable for the Bronte fan . <br /><br />You can't read books from just one era. One should employ the full spectrum of Bronte scholarship ....because all worthy Bronte biography informs the rest imo<br /> <br />Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7074545955842912793.post-81769039410130404002013-05-25T19:43:04.657+02:002013-05-25T19:43:04.657+02:001932 E.F.Benson
Boy, I really dislike this fello...1932 E.F.Benson<br /><br />Boy, I really dislike this fellow and I can't read his book much because of his overflowing bitterness that stamps every page .<br /><br />This is like the newer book that says Arthur and Charlotte poisoned everyone lol ...then Arthur poisoned Charlotte...why he then took care of Patrick for six years until Rev Bronte died of natural causes is never explained lolol <br /><br /><i>Charlotte' s hardness contrasts Emily' s superior generous nature. </i><br /><br />Like Mr. Benson would know. Does he mention Emily was the one who beat Keeper to a pulp? Brontes are both hard and soft <br /><br />Emily attracts those who wish to make a Bronte to their own liking<br /> Since there is much we cannot know , the idea of Emily is used like clay to fashion a made up image...and of course the far better known human being comes off the worse for it. <br /><br />His book has far more to do with E.F. Benson, than the Brontes imo<br /><br /><br /><br /><i>1920 Lucille Dooley<br /><br /> Psycho analysis of Charlotte Bronte. As a type of woman of genius</i><br /><br /> <br /><i> Lucile Dooley was the first commentator to suggest that Charlotte' s death was caused by "psychogenic reactions" linked to her father fixation. Charlotte could not become a mother without a destroying conflict.</i><br /><br />lol of course Tabby's typhoid fever was a non factor lol. We know Charlotte was nursing Tabby because CB wrote to a doctor about Tabby's illness and said "she voids without warning " ie CB got covered. I think one can say infection was a factor in her passing...which followed Tabby's with the same time period of illness and death<br /><br /><i>The unconscious artist. Charlotte's novels had risen whole and unalterable from ""the Unconscious"".</i><br /><br />That is ridiculous and a great disservice to Charlotte If today one's reads Elizabeth Imay's amazing book <br /><br /><i>Charlotte Bronte and the Mysteries of Love: Myth and Allegory in "Jane Eyre"</i><br /> <br />One is shown Charlotte was a super conscious artist, astonishing so .By the time she wrote Jane Eyre, Charlotte was a master craftswoman ..saying she was not is a means to bring her down a peg or two while not having to do research oneself .<br /><br />Why it took near the end of the 20th century for folks to READ the vast amount of source material there all along is a mystery. But thankfully they have <br /><br />The 20's was the beginning of a time of the over dominance of Psychoanalysis speculation...which we are still in, but not as deeply thank goodness .<br /><br />It was crafted to take the place of exhausted religion as a value system.<br /><br />By both are of not much worth if they are allowed to thoroughly dominate humans and crush creativity . There is a saying in the bible.<br /><br /><i>" the Sabbath was made for man, man was not made for the Sabbath"</i><br /><br />Meaning any system that crushes the human being is being used wrongly and it then loses its value. <br /><br />People in the 20's said God is dead, but then worshiped Freud...where is the progress in that? One simply has a new God and religion...and one without the great art lol <br /><br />The Brontes were and are ripe for treatment from such then and now because they are so emotional alive. They crackle with feeling still...many are attracted to that, but must contain it somehow...must pin the butterfly to a board to study it .<br /><br />I have to say of the many psychologists I have met ( they seem drawn to the art field as a way to feel ) a good many have a difficult time with just feeling their feelings...that the Brontes do not have this difficulty is an outrage lol <br />Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.com